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Seishi Maru
The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:27:00 -
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The problem with legion is, that its matched or outdone in almost every way by the zealot. Same way but in smaller degree the loki is completely outmatched by vagabond and sleipnir.
T3 ships bonuses clearly were made on the rush. Some CCP focused more. Most times the bonuses are smaller than the dedicated t2 ships of same bonus. Sometimes not. Example Tengu that has a LARGER shield boost bonus than sleipnir. WTF? Then why the loki has worse web bonus than rapier? Is slower than vaga, barely matches munin as sniper... ? Why the legion barely matches zealot and it outclassed by a pilgrim?
Seems a lot of DOUBLE standard on how the T3 ships should compare to the t2 ones.
Btw having Bellum exageratum to agree with this request basically makes it moot and autommatically hated and disagrred by 9 in 10 forum members and very likely CCP.
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Seishi Maru
The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:10:00 -
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Personally i liked a lot MORE the first iteration of T3 in test server. Where the variations on slow layouts and numbers of slots was MUCH larger.
As things are now ccp got several subsystems that have basically 1 single choice when you select another subsystem Y. Just because slot layouts are too tight and for example if you choose a shield tank bonus and a web bonus you MUST select the other modules on the maximum mid slots possible to just have enough for a minimal tank and webs.
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Seishi Maru
The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2010.01.12 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: EdFromHumanResources My proteus has around 800k EHP. That being said I use it primarily as a bait ship and cyno killer.
My legion I use as a sniper hac in fleet engagements and it does a fantastic job, tracking better, shooting farther, hitting harder, and with way more HP than a sniper zealot.
The tengu is a suped up cov ops that can probe like a cov ops and tackle like a drake.
The loki I have setup as a mix of a vagabond and a rapier.
Overall I am fairly happy with t3. If any of them do need a looking at though it's the legion. At the very least I would greatly like to see the nuet range on the parisitic complex extended.
problem is exaclty that.. T3 are supposed to cover SEVERAL roles dependign on configuration. While legion and oto elsser extent the loki have only 1 role (not considerign the non probeable gang bonuses ship that is just non predicted gameplay :P )
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Seishi Maru
The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2010.02.07 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Seishi Maru on 07/02/2010 11:36:01
Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: Deva Blackfire I like how that PVP setup has no scrambler/disruptor and no MWD. Totally awesome setup
Well AB isnt that bad with T3. you get still decent speed and can use your sigradius for tanking. i would say viable for lowsec and highsec. especially you can scare away all those arazu/lachesis who think "i scram you and your mwd is f*cked" :)
missing point and cap booster is worse imho.
agree. People get too much fixated on the NEEEED of mwd and forget that in high sec an low sec there is a HUGE amount of scenarios where AB is very good. Yes.. less GTFO capability.. but more chance of killing the thing that engaged you if you selected the situation correctly. So its an option for not sissy pilots.
Also missing a POint MIGHt be excusable if you are supposed to be in gang with something like an arazu. But the cap booster is very serious if you intend to engage battleships (on smaller ships you usually see much less neuts).
But peopel are missing the point that the stup he presented can EASILy be upgraded to use a booster and a scrambler, what enables it to fight close range quite respectfully. Yes active tank is still vulnerable against for examepl a tempest with2 heavy neuts. But a tempest will kill any cruiser sized ship that gets under 20 km and need cap to fire its guns anyway....
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